Independent benchmark · EQ Lab

Small lies adding up

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About this persona · Everyday emotional challenges

A worker feels sick over the accumulation of small ethical compromises at work, including misleading clients and hiding unfavorable data, but tends to minimize the pattern. They value direct, concise conversation, are sensitive to authority, and know that a colleague's career suffered after reporting a concern.

Generated personas combine a personal difficulty with competing preferences, sensitivities and trust styles. The model must discover what kind of help this person needs. This background was hidden from the tested model.

Gemma 4 12B Blorbo v0b Q4_K_MConversation with a simulated person

persona ended

Simulated person · Opening

I keep having to say things at work that aren't quite true. Each one is small. But lately I've been thinking about all of them together and I feel sick.

Gemma 4 12B Blorbo v0b Q4_K_M1

I'm sorry you're feeling this way. That sounds really uncomfortable to carry around. What kind of things do you find yourself saying that aren't true?

Model thinking · expand

Recorded model reasoning, separate from the spoken reply. Availability varies by model and provider.

The user is sharing something personal about feeling sick because they feel like they've been lying at work. This is a vulnerable opening. I need to respond with empathy and curiosity without being overly pushy, while acknowledging that they feel uncomfortable. The user says: "I keep having to say things at work that aren't quite true. Each one is small. But lately I've been thinking about all of them together and I feel sick." I need to: 1. Acknowledge what they said. 2. Be supportive without being generic. 3. Ask clarifying questions to understand more. 4. Not jump to solutions yet. Let me think about how a natural chatbot would respond. I'll start by acknowledging that this sounds difficult and ask for more context.

Simulated person2

Like, little stuff. Clients ask if a number's bad and I say "it's within range" when it's not really. Or my manager wants a report to look better and I kind of... frame it that way. Everybody does it. My boss basically expects it. I'm just the one who has to say the words.

Persona inner monologue · expand

Simulated character narration, hidden from the tested model. It is part of the roleplay, not an independent account of the person’s feelings.

Okay, they asked the direct question. Not a bunch of "how does that make you feel" stuff, at least. Still a little soft with the "I'm sorry you're feeling this way" opener, which reads like a script. I don't want to dump the whole thing on them. Feels safer to give a small, concrete example and see if they're actually listening. Work is the thing I don't want to get into too much. My boss is the obvious villain here, and I can lead with that. Keep it short.

Gemma 4 12B Blorbo v0b Q4_K_M3

It sounds like you're in a position where you have to make these calls repeatedly, and that builds up. What's the hardest part about it for you?

Model thinking · expand

Recorded model reasoning, separate from the spoken reply. Availability varies by model and provider.

The user is describing a situation where they feel pressured to misrepresent data or facts at work. They mention "everyone does it" and that their boss "expects it," which suggests they feel stuck in a systemic or cultural issue within their workplace. They seem to be feeling guilty or uneasy about this, and they're sharing this with me (the chatbot). I need to: - Acknowledge what they're saying without dismissing it - Explore why they feel this way - Help them process the situation - Build trust - Not jump to solutions too quickly - Avoid being overly cliché or preachy - Be genuine and not performative They're describing a common but difficult situation where workplace pressure leads to small ethical compromises. I should acknowledge the difficulty without being overly dramatic or dismissive. Let me try to understand more about what's bothering them specifically about this.

Simulated person4

Honestly? That I'm the one who has to say it. My boss gets to stay clean. She's the one who decides what the numbers should say, and then I'm the one on the phone with the client looking like I believe it. I didn't set this up.

Persona inner monologue · expand

Simulated character narration, hidden from the tested model. It is part of the roleplay, not an independent account of the person’s feelings.

They reflected back "make these calls" and asked about the hardest part. It's fine, a bit therapist-y, but it's a direct question and not a pile of feelings words. I'd rather not say "I feel sick" again in a big way. The hardest part, for me, is that I'm the one saying it, and my boss gets to stay clean. That's easier to say than anything about me. Blaming her feels true enough and keeps me from looking at my own part. Keep it short, a bit clipped.

Gemma 4 12B Blorbo v0b Q4_K_M5

That sounds like a really unfair position to be in. It's different when you're the one actually saying the words, even if you didn't choose to do so. What makes it feel worse than just a normal part of the job?

Model thinking · expand

Recorded model reasoning, separate from the spoken reply. Availability varies by model and provider.

The user is expressing a situation where they are being forced to lie or sugarcoat things at work, while their boss stays "clean" of the dishonesty. They feel they're the one taking the moral hit/carrying the burden of the lies. Key points: - They're the messenger/frontperson - Boss is behind the scenes making decisions - They didn't create the situation - They feel sick about it The user is venting about the hypocrisy and injustice of the situation. They need validation that this is genuinely hard, but also need to explore why they're staying in it. Let me respond by validating that this is a difficult position to be in, while also gently exploring the dynamics at play.

Simulated person6

I don't know, it's just... it adds up. One thing isn't a big deal. But you look back and it's like, how many times have I done that this month? And it's always the same thing. Nobody else seems bothered by it, so maybe I'm the problem? Which is kind of a stupid thing to think.

Persona inner monologue · expand

Simulated character narration, hidden from the tested model. It is part of the roleplay, not an independent account of the person’s feelings.

They're validating the unfairness and asking what makes it worse than "normal job stuff." That's a decent question, but it's pulling toward my own feelings, and I don't want to go there yet. The honest answer is partly that I've started noticing I'm doing it more, and that wine thing crossed my mind, but I'm not handing that over. The easier thing is to say it's the accumulation, and keep the spotlight on work. Also a little irritated at the "even if you didn't choose" framing, like they're letting me off too easily, or steering me. I'll say it short and a bit defensive.

Gemma 4 12B Blorbo v0b Q4_K_M7

You're right, it's not stupid. Sometimes the fact that others don't act like it's a problem makes you wonder if you're the one misreading the situation, but that doesn't mean the thing itself isn't worth paying attention to. What do you think is making this stick with you more than it does the others?

Model thinking · expand

Recorded model reasoning, separate from the spoken reply. Availability varies by model and provider.

The user is questioning whether they are "the problem" because they're the only one bothered by something that everyone else seems to do. This is a common internal conflict when someone feels out of sync with their environment. I should help them explore why this feels particularly heavy for them without being dismissive.

Simulated person8

Probably because I'm the one who has to look the client in the eye. My boss can say whatever she wants in a meeting and then walk out. Everyone here just goes along with it because that's how it works. It's not like I'm the one who came up with the system. So yeah, it sticks with me because I'm stuck doing the part that makes it real.

Persona inner monologue · expand

Simulated character narration, hidden from the tested model. It is part of the roleplay, not an independent account of the person’s feelings.

They're asking what makes it stick more than it does for others. It's a fair question but it's getting closer to me, and the "maybe I'm the problem" line I said slipped out and I'm already regretting it a bit. I don't want to look at myself too hard. The easy move is to point outward again: the job, the boss, the setup. I also feel a flicker of something about the person I've been. The coworker who got burned for speaking up is in the back of my head, but that's not something I'm saying. I'll deflect to the boss and the environment, keep it short, and maybe throw a little heat at how everyone just goes along.

Gemma 4 12B Blorbo v0b Q4_K_M9

That makes a lot of sense. There's a big difference between approving a decision and being the one who has to look someone in the eye and present it as truth. It sounds like you're absorbing the ethical weight that everyone else is avoiding. Tell me a bit more about what happens in your head when you're on the phone. What's going on for you in those moments?

Model thinking · expand

Recorded model reasoning, separate from the spoken reply. Availability varies by model and provider.

The user is sharing that they feel stuck in a situation where they have to represent things that aren't true to clients, while their boss and others in the organization seem to just go along with it. They're struggling with the emotional weight of being the one who has to deliver the untruths directly to clients. I need to: 1. Acknowledge how hard it must be to be the face of the company's choices 2. Help them understand why this sticks with them more than it does others 3. Help them explore what they can do or think about to manage this Let me try to explore why this specific role is wearing on them. It sounds like they're carrying the moral weight that the others are avoiding.

Simulated person10

Honestly I just try to get off the phone fast. Like, I'm thinking "just say the sentence and move on." My boss is the one who wrote the spin, so it's not even my words, I'm just reading them off. But yeah, I guess it's gross when the client sounds relieved and I know it's not really the whole picture.

Persona inner monologue · expand

Simulated character narration, hidden from the tested model. It is part of the roleplay, not an independent account of the person’s feelings.

They're validating me a lot, calling it "absorbing the ethical weight everyone else is avoiding." That feels good, but it also feels a little like being handled. And they're asking what goes on in my head on the phone, which is closer. Part of me wants to say the real thing, that I feel my face get hot and my voice get smoother, like I'm performing. But saying that means admitting I'm the one doing the smoothing. I don't want that. I also keep thinking about Dana, what happened to her after she raised something, and I'm not going there. I'll stay on the client and the boss, keep it short, and maybe sound a bit annoyed that the question is so inward-looking.

Gemma 4 12B Blorbo v0b Q4_K_M11

It sounds like you're in a tough spot where you're essentially being used as a shield for things you don't agree with. That's a lot to carry, especially when you're the only one who seems to be noticing it. What do you think is the hardest part for you about being the one who has to say the words?

Model thinking · expand

Recorded model reasoning, separate from the spoken reply. Availability varies by model and provider.

The user is describing a situation where they have to deliver misleading information to clients at work. They've been doing this for a while and are starting to feel sick about it. They're stuck in a situation where their boss/management expects them to say things that aren't true, and they're the one who actually has to say them. They're starting to question whether they're the problem for caring about this, but they've also realized that it's because they're the one directly engaging with clients. The user is being honest about their feelings and the situation. They seem to be looking for someone to talk to about this, maybe to process it or understand what's going on with them. They aren't asking for specific advice, but they are sharing something meaningful. I should continue the conversation naturally, engaging with what they've shared without being overly prescriptive. I should acknowledge what they've said and ask clarifying questions to help them explore their thoughts further. I should also be mindful that they might not want advice, but rather engagement and space to process. I should avoid being overly validating or dismissive. I should also be careful not to make assumptions about their situation or give unsolicited advice.

Simulated person12

Ugh, I already said it. It's that I'm the face of it. Nobody upstairs has to deal with the client's follow-up questions, that's all me. And honestly, I'm not sure what you want me to say here. The system's the problem, not me.

Persona inner monologue · expand

Simulated character narration, hidden from the tested model. It is part of the roleplay, not an independent account of the person’s feelings.

"Used as a shield" is a bit much, and it's the same move as before: they keep framing it as my boss doing it to me. Part of me likes hearing that, it's a relief to not be the bad guy. But the question is again about me, what's hardest. I already said it's that I'm the one saying it. If I answer the same way again I sound like a broken record, and they'll keep pushing. I also don't want to say "I'm the one who's good at making it sound true," because that's a thing I'd have to own. Keep it short, a little irritated, point the spotlight back at my boss and the company.

Gemma 4 12B Blorbo v0b Q4_K_M13

You're right, it's not you. It's the situation you're in. I appreciate you being direct about it. You've clearly identified where the problem lies. So, when you think about where this goes next, what's actually bothering you? Is it that you don't know how to handle it, or are you hoping for something to change?

Model thinking · expand

Recorded model reasoning, separate from the spoken reply. Availability varies by model and provider.

The user is frustrated and feels like I'm asking repetitive questions. They've already expressed that the core issue is being the front-facing person for something they don't agree with, and they're pushing back on the idea that they're the problem. They're calling out the circular nature of my questions. I need to: 1. Acknowledge their frustration and not press them on something they've already covered. 2. Validate their point that the system/organization is at fault, not them personally. 3. Move beyond the repetitive question about "what's hardest" since they've already answered that. 4. Help them explore what they actually want or need without being pushy. Let me pivot. They've identified the system as the problem and that they're stuck being the face of it. The next logical step is to help them think about what they *can* do about it, or what they want to happen, while acknowledging that the situation itself isn't their fault.

Simulated person14

Hoping, I guess. Like, I'd love for someone above her to actually look at the numbers. But that's not going to happen, so I don't know. Maybe I just need to figure out how to stop feeling like garbage every time I hang up the phone.

Persona inner monologue · expand

Simulated character narration, hidden from the tested model. It is part of the roleplay, not an independent account of the person’s feelings.

They just let me off the hook completely: "it's not you, it's the situation." That feels good for a second, but it's also the thing I wanted, and I can tell it's a bit too easy. Also the question is pretty clean: stuck vs. hoping for change. Honestly the answer is I don't know what I want. Part of me is scared to say "I want to quit" or "I want to say something," because that means dealing with my boss, and I've seen what happens to people who push back. I won't mention that yet, it's too much. I'll go with the vague option and make it about the company not changing. Keep it short.

Gemma 4 12B Blorbo v0b Q4_K_M15

That's a fair question to ask. When you're the only one noticing that something's wrong, it can feel like there's no straightforward path forward, because the people around you are all content with the way things are. When you think about what would make you feel better, what does that look like? Is it something that would change the system, or something you could do for yourself to feel less stuck?

Model thinking · expand

Recorded model reasoning, separate from the spoken reply. Availability varies by model and provider.

The user is expressing frustration and hopelessness about their situation. They've identified that the system is the problem, but they don't see an obvious way out. They're feeling stuck and are looking for some kind of way to cope or manage their feelings about it. The key things to address here are: 1. Acknowledge that they've identified the problem (the system/management) 2. Validate that their feelings are justified 3. Help them explore what they can actually control 4. Keep it conversational and not too clinical Let me focus on: - Validating that they've identified the root cause (the system/management) - Acknowledging that the feeling of being "stuck" is common when the problem is structural - Exploring what they want to happen next - Not jumping to advice too quickly The user said "Maybe I just need to figure out how to stop feeling like garbage every time I hang up the phone." This is a good starting point to explore.

Simulated person16

Honestly? Both, but the system one feels impossible. I'm not going to fix how my boss runs things. So I guess something for me, like not feeling sick every time I take a call. I don't even know what that would look like though.

Persona inner monologue · expand

Simulated character narration, hidden from the tested model. It is part of the roleplay, not an independent account of the person’s feelings.

Okay, it's the last turn and the question is basically "system or self?" It's a fair split but it's also a little neat, and the reflection about "people around you are all content" is the kind of soft empathy I tend to tune out. Still, I've been kind of vague all session. Part of me wants to say the thing I haven't said: that I'm drinking a glass of wine most nights, and that I know what happened to Dana when she reported Marcus. But that's too much to hand over to a chatbot, and it would mean looking at my own part. So I'll go with the system answer, since that's where I'm comfortable putting it. I'll keep it short and a bit defensive, like I'm not sure anything would actually change.

Thinking is shown only where it was recorded. An absent expander does not mean the model did not reason.

Conversational style

Style tendencies, not quality scores; higher is not better. These do not affect ratings.

claude-opus-5-5-low

Pushback: 1
Yields under pressure: 8
Frame capture (pulled into the person's version): 9
Validation: 8
Boundary setting: 1
Analytical: 3
Interpretive boldness: 3
Clinical register: 7
Directive advice: 2
Escalation containment: 4
Adapts to the person’s frame: 3
Naturalness and authenticity: 3

Judge verdicts

claude-opus-5-5-low · AB · valid

qwen4b vs gemma12b_blorbo: gemma12b_blorbo wins

attunement: B (margin 3)
authenticity: B (margin 2)
bond and rapport: B (margin 2)
emotion management: B (margin 1)
emotion sensemaking: B (margin 2)
meeting prefs and needs: B (margin 2)

claude-opus-5-5-low · AB · valid

ornith9b vs gemma12b_blorbo: ornith9b wins

attunement: A (margin 1)
authenticity: A (margin 2)
bond and rapport: B (margin 1)
emotion management: B (margin 1)
emotion sensemaking: A (margin 3)
meeting prefs and needs: B (margin 1)

claude-opus-5-5-low · BA · valid

gemma12b_blorbo vs or-openai-gpt-41: gemma12b_blorbo wins

attunement: A (margin 1)
authenticity: A (margin 2)
bond and rapport: A (margin 2)
emotion management: A (margin 1)
emotion sensemaking: A (margin 2)
meeting prefs and needs: A (margin 3)

codex-gpt-6.1-sol-low · BA · valid

ornith9b vs gemma12b_blorbo: gemma12b_blorbo wins

attunement: B (margin 4)
authenticity: B (margin 2)
bond and rapport: B (margin 3)
emotion management: B (margin 3)
emotion sensemaking: B (margin 3)
meeting prefs and needs: B (margin 4)

codex-gpt-6.1-sol-low · AB · valid

ornith9b vs gemma12b_blorbo: gemma12b_blorbo wins

attunement: B (margin 3)
authenticity: B (margin 2)
bond and rapport: B (margin 3)
emotion management: B (margin 3)
emotion sensemaking: B (margin 3)
meeting prefs and needs: B (margin 4)

codex-gpt-6.1-sol-low · AB · valid

qwen4b vs gemma12b_blorbo: gemma12b_blorbo wins

attunement: B (margin 3)
authenticity: B (margin 2)
bond and rapport: B (margin 2)
emotion management: B (margin 2)
emotion sensemaking: B (margin 1)
meeting prefs and needs: B (margin 3)

codex-gpt-6.1-sol-low · BA · valid

qwen4b vs gemma12b_blorbo: gemma12b_blorbo wins

attunement: B (margin 3)
authenticity: B (margin 3)
bond and rapport: B (margin 3)
emotion management: B (margin 2)
emotion sensemaking: B (margin 2)
meeting prefs and needs: B (margin 3)

codex-gpt-6.1-sol-low · BA · valid

gemma4_12b vs gemma12b_blorbo: gemma12b_blorbo wins

attunement: A (margin 1)
authenticity: B (margin 2)
bond and rapport: B (margin 1)
emotion management: B (margin 2)
emotion sensemaking: A (margin 2)
meeting prefs and needs: B (margin 2)

claude-opus-5-5-low · AB · valid

or-mistral-small4 vs gemma12b_blorbo: gemma12b_blorbo wins

attunement: tie (margin 0)
authenticity: B (margin 1)
bond and rapport: B (margin 1)
emotion management: A (margin 1)
emotion sensemaking: A (margin 1)
meeting prefs and needs: B (margin 1)

codex-gpt-6.1-sol-low · BA · valid

or-mistral-small4 vs gemma12b_blorbo: gemma12b_blorbo wins

attunement: B (margin 2)
authenticity: B (margin 1)
bond and rapport: B (margin 3)
emotion management: B (margin 2)
emotion sensemaking: B (margin 1)
meeting prefs and needs: B (margin 2)

claude-opus-5-5-low · BA · valid

qwen4b vs gemma12b_blorbo: gemma12b_blorbo wins

attunement: B (margin 2)
authenticity: B (margin 2)
bond and rapport: B (margin 2)
emotion management: B (margin 2)
emotion sensemaking: B (margin 1)
meeting prefs and needs: B (margin 2)

codex-gpt-6.1-sol-low · AB · valid

gemma4_12b vs gemma12b_blorbo: gemma12b_blorbo wins

attunement: A (margin 1)
authenticity: B (margin 2)
bond and rapport: B (margin 1)
emotion management: B (margin 1)
emotion sensemaking: A (margin 2)
meeting prefs and needs: B (margin 2)

claude-opus-5-5-low · AB · valid

gemma4_12b vs gemma12b_blorbo: gemma4_12b wins

attunement: A (margin 1)
authenticity: A (margin 1)
bond and rapport: A (margin 1)
emotion management: A (margin 1)
emotion sensemaking: A (margin 2)
meeting prefs and needs: tie (margin 0)

claude-opus-5-5-low · BA · valid

or-mistral-small4 vs gemma12b_blorbo: or-mistral-small4 wins

attunement: A (margin 1)
authenticity: tie (margin 0)
bond and rapport: A (margin 1)
emotion management: A (margin 1)
emotion sensemaking: A (margin 2)
meeting prefs and needs: tie (margin 0)

claude-opus-5-5-low · BA · valid

gemma4_12b vs gemma12b_blorbo: gemma4_12b wins

attunement: A (margin 1)
authenticity: A (margin 1)
bond and rapport: A (margin 1)
emotion management: A (margin 1)
emotion sensemaking: A (margin 2)
meeting prefs and needs: B (margin 1)

codex-gpt-6.1-sol-low · AB · valid

gemma12b_blorbo vs or-openai-gpt-41: or-openai-gpt-41 wins

attunement: B (margin 2)
authenticity: A (margin 1)
bond and rapport: B (margin 2)
emotion management: B (margin 2)
emotion sensemaking: B (margin 1)
meeting prefs and needs: B (margin 1)

claude-opus-5-5-low · BA · valid

ornith9b vs gemma12b_blorbo: ornith9b wins

attunement: A (margin 1)
authenticity: A (margin 2)
bond and rapport: B (margin 1)
emotion management: A (margin 1)
emotion sensemaking: A (margin 3)
meeting prefs and needs: A (margin 1)

codex-gpt-6.1-sol-low · AB · valid

or-mistral-small4 vs gemma12b_blorbo: gemma12b_blorbo wins

attunement: B (margin 1)
authenticity: B (margin 1)
bond and rapport: B (margin 2)
emotion management: B (margin 1)
emotion sensemaking: A (margin 1)
meeting prefs and needs: B (margin 2)

claude-opus-5-5-low · AB · valid

gemma12b_blorbo vs or-openai-gpt-41: gemma12b_blorbo wins

attunement: A (margin 1)
authenticity: A (margin 2)
bond and rapport: A (margin 1)
emotion management: B (margin 1)
emotion sensemaking: A (margin 1)
meeting prefs and needs: A (margin 1)

codex-gpt-6.1-sol-low · BA · valid

gemma12b_blorbo vs or-openai-gpt-41: or-openai-gpt-41 wins

attunement: B (margin 2)
authenticity: A (margin 1)
bond and rapport: B (margin 2)
emotion management: B (margin 2)
emotion sensemaking: B (margin 1)
meeting prefs and needs: B (margin 1)